In message <56BB4B80-8462-4970-94FA-6657A7D6B378 at gmail.com>you wrote: > > -- so apparently it ignores the trailing five and does a full KN model > if there's a space, right? I'm after the "full" KN model as per Chen > & Goodman -- so should I just say -kndiscount without any numbers to > get it, with -order 5 for 5-grams maximum? Indeed. Andreas